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Bill as a writing influence

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 10:46 pm
by DrBenway1210
Good evening from Brazil,

I'm currently spending my days and effort into something still unknown to me. Fingers typing with Bill as part of the initial influence. Have you guys written anything? If so, how Burroughs influenced it?

Re: Bill as a writing influence

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:12 pm
by paranoiajack
I've written a handful of rather blah novels and I would say, for me, the Burroughs influence has to do more with what I call plot spice than actual technique. I don't think I could write a book the way Burroughs did, with all the copy-and-paste and cut-up stuff. Plot Spice is what I call things like pop-cultural (and even haute cultural) call-backs, references, allusions. In almost all of my books there is a fringe character that is overly paranoid in a Burroughsian way. Even then, as a reader, I gravitate more toward the Red Night Trilogy than the Nova Trilogy. I think it's because I came to Burroughs through JG Ballard, as they are both surrealists. I am not a surrealist, though I like to interject a little surreality into my stories. In contrast to how I use my Burroughs influence, from Ballard I took his razor-sharp and almost clinical descriptions of places and things. Ballard wrote terrain better than Hemingway, in my opinion.

Re: Bill as a writing influence

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:20 am
by GLN
I always found Mr. Burroughs advice on learning to type to be valuable.

Re: Bill as a writing influence

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:45 pm
by Graham Rae
Written plenty. Probably too WSB-headspinfluenced at the time.

Re: Bill as a writing influence

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:46 pm
by Graham Rae
GLN wrote:
Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:20 am
I always found Mr. Burroughs advice on learning to type to be valuable.
What was that advice? Cos he couldn't spell for shit, and his one-finger pecking pages of Naked Lunch are horrendous to look at, for pure lack of flow. Doesn't even put a space after a question mark.

Re: Bill as a writing influence

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:05 pm
by johnny
Be prepared to spend a lot of time working alone. Be prepared to throw a lot away. Be prepared for rejection. Use cut ups sparingly like in a dream or altered states or even a different way to portray action.WSB pulled off massive experimental work in the Nova Trilogy but one must not expect to read a normal type work. IMO he made it work on that experimental level, in fact IMO no so-called Cyber-Punk novel has even come close to competing with those 3 books. I love those books but I must be in the mood to re-read them. For regular. WSB reading I prefer the Red Night Trilogy where he seemed to have boiled down everything he had ever learned and presented it in a coherent way for all readers. BTW a bunch of great writers were notoriously bad spellers, including Papa Hemingway. Mark Twain once said: "If there's only one way to spell a word, then I'd say there was something wrong with that word" WSB also was against things like "character development or plot" although plots did develop in his stream-of-consciousness style. Another thing I always liked (against typical advice) was to: "Always write about things you don't know about."